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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;In the Beginning&#8221; Meets the &#8220;LEC Apocalypse&#8221; - A Riff on Doc&#8217;s Snowball</title>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cook</title>
		<link>http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=18#comment-17</link>
		<author>Gordon Cook</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The short form of all this is that Verizon and ATT aree lying when they complain about their clogged pipes.  The only question as Tom Evslin wrote on, I think July 5th, in his blog post about their views on being entitled to access charges. Access charges on all traffic is what they want their business model depends on them. 

Now their pipes are clogged at the last mile because they have built them to be clogged.  They could not afford to build them unconstricted.  Why? Because they are then commoditized and can no longer meter and charge for every transaction.  Some access pipes may be clogged sometimes.  If so it is by design.

With the decline of wireline deliverable voice bits Whittacre is searching for access charges - he wants to get his pennies from all those google bits and you tube bits.

As Qwest rakes Level 3 across the PUC coals - Qwest is grabbing its equivalent of access charges.

Only if you are as stupid as George Bush would you give the phone company a monopoly over its last mile when its business model was underattack from more efficient IP networks and not expect the phone company to go on a rampage.  Its late - I better stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short form of all this is that Verizon and ATT aree lying when they complain about their clogged pipes.  The only question as Tom Evslin wrote on, I think July 5th, in his blog post about their views on being entitled to access charges. Access charges on all traffic is what they want their business model depends on them. </p>
<p>Now their pipes are clogged at the last mile because they have built them to be clogged.  They could not afford to build them unconstricted.  Why? Because they are then commoditized and can no longer meter and charge for every transaction.  Some access pipes may be clogged sometimes.  If so it is by design.</p>
<p>With the decline of wireline deliverable voice bits Whittacre is searching for access charges - he wants to get his pennies from all those google bits and you tube bits.</p>
<p>As Qwest rakes Level 3 across the PUC coals - Qwest is grabbing its equivalent of access charges.</p>
<p>Only if you are as stupid as George Bush would you give the phone company a monopoly over its last mile when its business model was underattack from more efficient IP networks and not expect the phone company to go on a rampage.  Its late - I better stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cook</title>
		<link>http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=18#comment-15</link>
		<author>Gordon Cook</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JP - serendipity at works again:  I am doing the lay out of a seconf big interview with Tom Vest.  I was just formating the following.  Read and Savoir: 

 Vest:  \"AT&#038;Tv2 is on the timeline because thatâ€™s what we have, a reborn near-national scale territorial facilities owner, with monopoly control over the only access segment that connects millions of households to the Internet.  This territorial facilities owner does not want to support wholesale services anymore, and it complains a lot in public about the grave dangers of network congestion.\" 

\"The fact that these warnings come at a point on the multiplexing trend line where itâ€™s possible to deliver a continuous 1Mbps stream 24x7 to every household in America over just a couple of optical fibers (out of 250+ on most every important point-to-point segment), is purely coincidental â€“ or is it? In any case, if this contrast between fear mongering about congestion and the reality of near-infinite supply causes any cognitive dissonance with your readers, then I can only sympathize.\"

Cook\'s Edge:  Between 1990 and 1992 I spent 18 months with the USA Congress Office of Technology Assessment.  The purpose of OTA was to prevent congress from making STUPID technology mistakes.

No more the republicans in 1994 got rid of OTA.  Its hard for me not to be very very cynical.  I am talking a bit with Dirk van der Woude in Amsterdam.  He tells me: Some ten or so Embassies of the Netherlands have a technological innovation officer. 

Forsooth!  Those wiley nederlanders.  Apparently one thing these diplomats do is publish a mail list on their observations of technology goings on around them.  Clever, eh. George Bush would never do that  - he has other ways to spend taxpayer money. :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JP - serendipity at works again:  I am doing the lay out of a seconf big interview with Tom Vest.  I was just formating the following.  Read and Savoir: </p>
<p> Vest:  \&#8221;AT&#038;Tv2 is on the timeline because thatâ€™s what we have, a reborn near-national scale territorial facilities owner, with monopoly control over the only access segment that connects millions of households to the Internet.  This territorial facilities owner does not want to support wholesale services anymore, and it complains a lot in public about the grave dangers of network congestion.\&#8221; </p>
<p>\&#8221;The fact that these warnings come at a point on the multiplexing trend line where itâ€™s possible to deliver a continuous 1Mbps stream 24&#215;7 to every household in America over just a couple of optical fibers (out of 250+ on most every important point-to-point segment), is purely coincidental â€“ or is it? In any case, if this contrast between fear mongering about congestion and the reality of near-infinite supply causes any cognitive dissonance with your readers, then I can only sympathize.\&#8221;</p>
<p>Cook\&#8217;s Edge:  Between 1990 and 1992 I spent 18 months with the USA Congress Office of Technology Assessment.  The purpose of OTA was to prevent congress from making STUPID technology mistakes.</p>
<p>No more the republicans in 1994 got rid of OTA.  Its hard for me not to be very very cynical.  I am talking a bit with Dirk van der Woude in Amsterdam.  He tells me: Some ten or so Embassies of the Netherlands have a technological innovation officer. </p>
<p>Forsooth!  Those wiley nederlanders.  Apparently one thing these diplomats do is publish a mail list on their observations of technology goings on around them.  Clever, eh. George Bush would never do that  - he has other ways to spend taxpayer money. :-/</p>
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		<title>By: Confused Of Calcutta &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Four Pillars: Four more themes before the next recap</title>
		<link>http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=18#comment-12</link>
		<author>Confused Of Calcutta &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Four Pillars: Four more themes before the next recap</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=18#comment-12</guid>
		<description>[...] The second theme is about caching versus long-tail. A lot of the arguments about net neutrality tend to focus on &#8220;Someone must pay for all the upgrades we must do, in order to let all of you download all these videos that are going to clog up the tubes and make sure Senator Stevens never receives his internet&#8220;, while the real arguments may be about something else altogether: See Doc&#8217;s recent post on the subject, and Gordon&#8217;s follow-up. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The second theme is about caching versus long-tail. A lot of the arguments about net neutrality tend to focus on &#8220;Someone must pay for all the upgrades we must do, in order to let all of you download all these videos that are going to clog up the tubes and make sure Senator Stevens never receives his internet&#8220;, while the real arguments may be about something else altogether: See Doc&#8217;s recent post on the subject, and Gordon&#8217;s follow-up. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cook</title>
		<link>http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=18#comment-11</link>
		<author>Gordon Cook</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A member of my mail list wrote: Long Distance service has an
originating carrier, a backhaul carrier and the termination carrier... But
we don't get billed by 2 carriers (or three) but one.

&lt;a href="http://www.ionary.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fred Goldstein &lt;/a&gt; replied: The current system for long distance billing is an out-and-out 
disaster.  Have you been following the state-by-state wars against 
dial-up Internet and especially Virtual NXX?  Familiar with the 
Global NAPs disasters in MA and VT? Level 3's state-by-state battles 
with Qwest?  That's an artifact of the LD billing system, which is 
being applied to ISPs in some states now, as in "ye olde modem taxe", 
only now it's sometimes for real.

LD billing got to be this way because the LD and local industries 
were split in 1984.  The local carriers got to impose "access 
charges" on both ends of the call, which the LD carrier paid. &lt;b&gt; Since 
access charges were hidden, the LECs could impose high monopoly 
rents, with only industry insiders seeing it. &lt;/b&gt; LD rates reflected 
this, of course, but people probably thought tha the LD carriers were 
keeping a much larger percentage of their billings than they actually 
did keep.  Indirect billing invites abuse.

Cook's Edge:  I agree with Fred.  But I would also point out that this  loops right back to Tom Vest's analysis quoted above of territorial control.  Each modality (phone and cable tv) has an monopoly over its access to its customers. And the FCC, Congress and PUCs appear to be indifferent to the telco abuse of its newly granted monopoly.  (cable always had a monopoly in the US - but not in Canada.)

The principal to remember here is that given almost unlimited bandwidth from fiber, the telco business model REQUIRES that bandwidth be rationed.  In my opinion this is establishing a conflict that can only be satisfactorily solved by open access community owned fiber networks.  Here  fiber becomes the fifth utility and service providers can connect and offer wholesale or retail services to the community over SHARED fiber infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A member of my mail list wrote: Long Distance service has an<br />
originating carrier, a backhaul carrier and the termination carrier&#8230; But<br />
we don&#8217;t get billed by 2 carriers (or three) but one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ionary.com/" rel="nofollow">Fred Goldstein </a> replied: The current system for long distance billing is an out-and-out<br />
disaster.  Have you been following the state-by-state wars against<br />
dial-up Internet and especially Virtual NXX?  Familiar with the<br />
Global NAPs disasters in MA and VT? Level 3&#8217;s state-by-state battles<br />
with Qwest?  That&#8217;s an artifact of the LD billing system, which is<br />
being applied to ISPs in some states now, as in &#8220;ye olde modem taxe&#8221;,<br />
only now it&#8217;s sometimes for real.</p>
<p>LD billing got to be this way because the LD and local industries<br />
were split in 1984.  The local carriers got to impose &#8220;access<br />
charges&#8221; on both ends of the call, which the LD carrier paid. <b> Since<br />
access charges were hidden, the LECs could impose high monopoly<br />
rents, with only industry insiders seeing it. </b> LD rates reflected<br />
this, of course, but people probably thought tha the LD carriers were<br />
keeping a much larger percentage of their billings than they actually<br />
did keep.  Indirect billing invites abuse.</p>
<p>Cook&#8217;s Edge:  I agree with Fred.  But I would also point out that this  loops right back to Tom Vest&#8217;s analysis quoted above of territorial control.  Each modality (phone and cable tv) has an monopoly over its access to its customers. And the FCC, Congress and PUCs appear to be indifferent to the telco abuse of its newly granted monopoly.  (cable always had a monopoly in the US - but not in Canada.)</p>
<p>The principal to remember here is that given almost unlimited bandwidth from fiber, the telco business model REQUIRES that bandwidth be rationed.  In my opinion this is establishing a conflict that can only be satisfactorily solved by open access community owned fiber networks.  Here  fiber becomes the fifth utility and service providers can connect and offer wholesale or retail services to the community over SHARED fiber infrastructure.</p>
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